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We continue our journey through Mike Warnke's 1972 "memoir" about his rise through the ranks of Satan Inc.  This week, Mike gets a promotion, attends a regional conference and dabbles in some light human trafficking. Despite filling this book with his wildest imaginings, he cannot conceive of a non-patriarchal institution.Support us:Hear bonus episodes on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy stickers, magnets, T-shirts and moreWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, You Are Good Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseSupport the show

Sarah and Mike return to Camp You're Wrong About for another Satanic Panic story hour. This time we're talking about Mike Warnke's 1972 "memoir" about joining a demonic cult and the California hedonism that made him do it. Digressions include thrift stores, "Firestarter" and unjust Best Picture winners. Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, You Are Good Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseSupport the show

Mike and Sarah have big feelings about an enduring debate. Digressions include “Carrie,” party planning etiquette and Whole Foods cafeterias. Sarah’s sound quality changes midway through because she moves from a McDonald’s parking lot to a Hardee’s parking lot.Special thanks to Meredith Clark and Allissa Richardson for helping us with the history section of this episode! Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, You Are Good Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks!Natalie Wynn's "Canceling" Drag Them: A brief etymology of so-called “cancel culture”The Long and Tortured History of Cancel CultureThe strange journey of ‘cancel,’ from a Black-culture punchline to a White-grievance watchwordWhy Attacking ‘Cancel Culture’ And ‘Woke’ People Is Becoming The GOP’s New Political StrategyTales From the Teenage Cancel CultureGenerational Cycles in American Politics, 1952–2016It’s Not Callout Culture. It’s Accountability.An Incomplete

Mike tells Sarah about an impending conflict, a dissident singer and America's first internet-enabled cancellation. Digressions include "Freedom Fries" and 1990s record company shenanigans. The co-hosts harmonize for the first time; Mike struggles not to call the Chicks by their former name. Content note: This episode includes misogynistic, racist and fatphobic language. Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks!The Chicks' "Ready to Run" videoKaren Pittelman's "Another Country"James Dickerson’s “Dixie Chicks: Down-Home and Backstage”Elites, Masses, and Media Too Famous to Protest: Far-Right Online Community Bonding Over Collective Desecration of Colin Kaepernick, Fame, and Celebrity ActivismBlacklists: The Dixie Chicks Controversy Chicks in the WildernessChicks In the Line of FireThe Dixie Chicks Were Cancelled For Criticizing The Presiden

Mike tells Sarah how liberal magazines turned a "kids these days" moral panic into a national crisis. Digressions include Law & Order, Dave Foley and swimming pool etiquette. This episode contains detailed descriptions of sexual assault, mass shootings and suicide. Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks!John Wilson’s The Myth of Political CorrectnessJon Weiner's Historians in TroubleNeil Gross’s Why Are Professors Liberal and Why Do Conservatives Care?Political Correctness: How The Right Invented A Phantom EnemyThe Fraying Of AmericaThe Rising Hegemony of the Politically CorrectAre You Telling Me That I'm Politically Correct?Are You Politically Correct?The Rising Hegemony of the Politically CorrectThere Is No Campus Free Speech Crisis: A Close Look at the EvidenceSupport the show

Bob Shapiro is on a mission from God, F. Lee Bailey joins the Dream Team, and we get in our DeLorean to meet two of the most notorious Florida Men of the '60s: Carl Coppolino and Murph the Surf. Digressions include Linda Evangelista, Patty Hearst, "The Commitments" and the upside of peaking in your 50s. Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseSupport the show

Special guest Cassie da Costa tells Mike and Sarah how Vanessa fell from grace and picked herself back up. Digressions include Stephen Sondheim, Rush Limbaugh and Joan Rivers. The tyranny of abs is discussed at length.Here's Cassie's episode of You Must Remember This and her website!Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseSupport the show

Mike reached new levels of rantiness on his other show and we wanted to make sure all our beloved debunkmates knew. PLUS: A special announcement! Subscribe to Maintenance Phase hereSubscribe to Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads, hereSupport us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchSupport the show

Mike tells Sarah how a 20-year-old singer, actress and French horn player became Miss America with less than six months of practice. Digressions include Ted Bundy, Stephen King’s “It” and a bonus debunking of the "bra-burning feminist" trope. We're sorry to say that this episode includes a description of child sexual abuse. Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseClips! Opening musical numberVanessa introduces herselfTalent competitionSwimsuitVanessa wins!Links!Sarah's Miss America piece!Vanessa and Helen’s memoir, “You Have No Idea”Margot Mifflin’s “Looking for Miss America”Vanessa Williams, Whitney Houston and Hollywood’s Misogynoir ProblemVanessa Williams: A Beauty Queen’s Crown of ThornsMiss America--The Inside StoryFirst Black Miss America Finds Unforeseen IssuesAin’t I a Beauty Queen?: Black Women, Beauty, and the Politics of Race Life with Daughters: Watching th

Sarah's other show has a special guest! Maintenance Phase co-host Aubrey Gordon visits Why Are Dads to talk about Christopher Nolan, trash masculinity and the dwindling number of non-problematic superheroes. Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseSupport the show

To tell the story of the "dream team" we must begin by going back to the future. This week we learn why O.J. Simpson fired the man who defended John DeLorean and why a briefcase of cocaine isn’t always a smoking gun. Digressions include Bob’s Big Boy, Margaret Thatcher and the Fonz. Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks!1970 GTO Humbler commercial 1981 DeLorean commercialHoward Weitzman on John DeLorean in 2013 The "better than gold" tape John DeLorean Reinvented The Dream Car. Then He Totaled It.Delorean is Freed Key Witness Against DeLorean Begins Testimony Government Paid Informer Support the show

Mike tells Sarah the real reason Congress called a bunch of rockers to Washington D.C. Digressions include cartoon violence, sleeveless tees and Trixie Mattel. Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher" and Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It" are dissected at length. Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks! The hearing transcript Dee Snider's memoirFrank Zappa's memoirRunning with the Devil: Power, Gender, and Madness in Heavy Metal MusicMusic-Evoked Emotions—Current Studies Don’t Let The Man Get You Down: Rock and Roll and The Development of The Parents’ Music Resource CenterSave the Children: The Parents’ Music Resource Center and Media ActivismHighway to Hell: Laws, Lawsuits, and Moral Panic over Heavy Metal MusicThe Parents’ Music Resource Center: From Information to Censorship“Leer-Ics” or Lyrics: Teenage Impressions of Rock 'n'

Mike tells Sarah how a congressional wife started a moral crusade. Digressions include Sheena Easton, Satanic rhymes and teen homicide statistics. Ozzy Osbourne's bat story is recounted in full.Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks!Save the Children: The Parents’ Music Resource Center and Media ActivismEverything you need to know about Ozzy Osbourne biting the head off a bat in Des MoinesHighway to Hell: Laws, Lawsuits, and Moral Panic over Heavy Metal Music, The Emergence of Youth Suicide: An Epidemiologic Analysis and Public Health PerspectiveThe Role of Gun Supply in 1980s and 1990s Youth ViolenceThe Parents’ Music Resource Center: From Information to CensorshipParental Advisory – Explicit Content: The Parents Music Resource Center, Conservative Music Censorship, and the Protection of ChildrenAndrew Hartman’s A War for the Soul of America: A History of the Culture WarsTren

Special guest Eric Michael Garcia tells Mike and Sarah about the deep roots of a pernicious modern myth. Digressions include Mary Tyler Moore, British place names and supermodel dating habits. Mike finally gets to talk about Swedish statistical methods. Here's some of Eric's work on autism and here's his book!Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseSupport the show

This week, we put on our suits and head back to the courtroom. O.J. Simpson pleads not guilty, Marcia Clark finishes questioning Kato Kaelin and Bob Shapiro continues to furrow his brow. Digressions include "Speed," the Kuleshov effect and the intentional boringness of American law. In the final ten minutes, we talk briefly about the crime scene and Marcia’s reaction to it. If you'd like to see the arraignment footage for yourself it's here.Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseSupport the show

Mike tells Sarah how a troll-ish experiment turned a South Carolina teenager into one of the most maligned women of the 1990s. Digressions include Sally Ride, Anne Hathaway and, as usual, "Newsies." Mike struggles with the word "infirmary" throughout.The pictures of Shannon we discuss in this episode are here.Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks! Catherine Manegold's "In Glory's Shadow: Shannon Faulkner, the Citadel, and a Changing America"Susan Faludi’s “The Naked Citadel”Marching In Step: The Citadel And Post World War II America A Judicial Blow for "Jane Crowism" at The Citadel in Faulkner v. JonesThe Citadel's Lone Wolf, Shannon FaulknerSurviving the Company of MenShannon Faulkner and The Citadel: The Effects of Using Litigation as an Instrument of Social ReformSaving The Males: The Sociological Implications of the Virgin

This week we talk about the early days of Paula and O.J.’s relationship and the celebrity cameos reach either a high or a low point. Digressions include date etiquette,  cat scams and room-temperature Diet Coke. Mike has his head in his hands for long periods. In this episode we discuss domestic abuse, including the violence Nicole Brown Simpson experienced and the circumstances of her 911 calls.Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseSupport the show

This week we return to the  O.J. Simpson trial and learn what Paula Barbieri did after the Bronco chase. Digressions include fish, beef and grocery shopping while conventionally attractive. Neither co-host has a firm grasp on the meaning of the word "festive."Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks!Paula on "Primetime Live" The Time cover Support the show

Mike tells Sarah the complicated story of an over-simplified study. Digressions include Tonya Harding, "The Meg" and Kitty Genovese. The Milgram obedience studies and the "broken windows" theory of policing receive bonus debunkings. Thanks to Thibault Le Texier for helping us with this episode! Here's his book, "The History of a Lie," and the English-language summary, "Debunking the Stanford Prison Experiment."Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks! The Original StudyPhilip Zimbardo's "The Lucifer Effect"Zimbardo's 1973 NYT articleDavid Jaffee’s precursor study at Toyon HallBen Blum's "The Lifespan of a Lie"The Stanford prison experiment in introductory psychology textbooks: A content analysisThe Real Lesson of the Stanford Prison ExperimentRevisiting the Stanford Prison Experiment: Could Participant Se

Mike tells Sarah what makes older Americans more vulnerable to misinformation — and who is delivering it to them. Digressions include "Supernatural," the Rachel and a fake university in Pennsylvania. We recorded this episode before the election but tried not to make it too obvious.Here's the article Mike wrote with all the research he did for this episode: Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseSupport the show