Smart Agency Masterclass With Jason Swenk: Podcast For Digital Marketing Agencies

In this episode, I chat with Richard Warner.  Richard is the founder and CEO of What's Up Interactive, a business he started 24 years ago and took from "high tech" fax company to successful digital agency. He is also a nationally syndicated broadcaster, entrepreneur, and business expert. If you want to know how to build long lasting agency business in a competitive industry, this is the advice you need. First who, then what. The "first who, then what" principle from the James Collins book Good to Great, spoke volumes (no pun intended) to Richard. This principle is all about getting the right people on board. Who is going to fit in best with your culture and who is right for the company at the time? Then figure out where they fit within the company. "As we maneuvered, it turned out they weren't the right people. But some people who couldn't find success here, almost always found it somewhere else." He also warns against hiring for growth, a trap many fall into, especially in their early days of business. You n