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Today we are joined by Perry Carpenter from the 8th Layer Insights podcast.Description: Get ready for a deep dive into what cybersecurity professionals often refer to as the "8th Layer" of security: HUMANS. Welcome to 8th Layer Insights (8Li). This podcast is a multidisciplinary exploration into how the complexities of human nature affect security and risk. Author, security researcher, and behavior science enthusiast Perry Carpenter taps experts for their insights and illumination. Topics include cybersecurity, psychology, behavior science, communication, leadership, and moreWebsite: https://8thlayerinsights.com/Things You're Doing CorrectThe audio production is amazing.The sidekick of "Carl" was creativeAsked some really good questions and stayed out of the guest's way.As the episode isn't super long, the summaries at the end of a point signaled you were moving on to a new point.Loved the insights and vulnerabilityThe website is clean and very usefulVery well put togetherThings That Might Need Some Buffering