De Balie Podcast

What is the political potential of live, embodied interactions? Celebrated artist Tino Sehgal believes they matter deeply. In our highly polarized, mediatized, and capitalized society, Sehgal has the courage to create artworks that are immaterial and leave no trace at all.For over two decades, Sehgal’s work has disrupted the art world’s system—a system that values objects over labor and the individual over the collective. In the first episode of the art series In Our Time, curator Azu Nwagbogu and Tino Sehgal explore the art and politics of presence. What role can social interactions in public space play in a time when political leaders around the world are openly attacking museums and the art world?During the conversation the audience experienced and participated in the work of conceptual and performance artist Lisette Ros.About the speakersTino Sehgal (London), is an artist working and living in Berlin. Originally studying political economy and dance, he crossed over to the visual arts in 200