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On our 49th episode, we enjoyed the rare opportunity to share an hour with a writer whose work has been hugely important to both of us. Jungian analyst and podcaster Lisa Marchiano is the author of several books, including one that we hold especially close: “Motherhood: Facing and Finding Yourself.” In the last five years, we both became mothers, and because of this we’ve been navigating completely new lives and ways of relating to ourselves, to the world around us, and to time itself. There nothing quite like the initiation into parenthood. It is joyful, disorienting, and profoundly beautiful—and, at times, full of loss, grief, and frustration. It was an honor to speak to Marchiano about the many and rich complexities and contradictions of this experience, and how we learn to make meaning from even our most turbulent transformations. Our intro (“Love is Love”) and outro (“My Ace”) are courtesy of KING VISION ULTRA, 2025.