Second Captains @ The Irish Times

Caoimhin Kelleher didn't save any penalties but his penalty-taking made the difference as Liverpool beat Chelsea to win their first League Cup in a decade.Chelsea, though, are preoccupied with bigger questions surrounding their future under Roman Abramovich, as Russia's invasion of Ukraine continues despite the Chelsea owner's alleged efforts for peace. Rory Smith and Jonathan Wilson join us to discuss the League Cup final, Abramovich's situation, and what FIFA should do next. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.