Second Captains @ The Irish Times

We're joined by Seamus Hickey, Limerick shop steward for the Union of Hurling Defenders, fresh from their celebrations after Henry Shefflin's retirement. Gerry Thornley tells us why rugby will never be the same again after last Saturday, and we discover the Second Captains Pyramid of Power, the link between Brian Cody and Humphrey Bogart, and the importance of hugging. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.