Second Captains @ The Irish Times

Eoin and Ken wonder about the element of surprise in football, we hear from some angry managers, and discuss Jose Mourinho's new idea for Chelsea's skull n bones club crest.John Brewin joins us to talk about what has Arsene Wenger so irritated.And Raphael Honigstein analyses the early-season struggles of Borussia Dortmund and if Germans have recovered from their 1-1 draw with Ireland. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.