Staffing & Recruiter Training Podcast

In this high-energy episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love welcomes Larry Long Jr., a dynamic motivational speaker and sales expert, to explore the idea that everyone is in sales. Larry shares his unique approach to sales as a way to help others, build relationships, and solve problems. Packed with humor and actionable insights, this episode offers a fresh perspective on overcoming the stigma of sales and embracing it as a force for good. Key topics include redefining sales as helping, documenting value to improve confidence, creating a "brag book" of wins, and building trust through active listening and genuine care. Larry also emphasizes the importance of daily learning, nurturing relationships, and practicing sales skills to improve consistently. Whether you’re a seasoned professional or new to business development, this episode will inspire you to approach sales with confidence and authenticity. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ ------------------------------------------------ Larry Lon

In this solo episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love shares a proven goal-setting framework to help you achieve balance and success in both your professional and personal life. Drawing from his own experiences and lessons learned from his father, an organizational development consultant, Scott introduces a six-category model for setting and evaluating goals: business, financial, family, recreational, physical fitness, and mental/spiritual. He emphasizes the importance of measuring progress, maintaining balance, and aligning goals with what truly brings fulfillment and joy. Key topics include strategies for creating actionable, measurable goals, using visual tools like thermometers and scales to track progress, and identifying areas of imbalance to refocus your efforts. Whether you’re aiming to grow your business, strengthen personal relationships, or enhance your well-being, this episode provides practical insights and motivation to make the most of your year. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.co

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love welcomes Barbara Rozgonyi, founder of CoreyWest Media and a marketing, PR, and sales training expert, to share strategies for crushing sales quotas. Barbara introduces her 4D Marketing framework—Digital, Direct, Dynamic, and Data—designed to streamline business development efforts, enhance client relationships, and maximize results. With practical tips on auditing your marketing efforts, improving your LinkedIn profile, and using storytelling to connect with clients, Barbara equips listeners with tools to thrive in today’s competitive market. Key topics include identifying your ideal client, leveraging digital PR for visibility, creating a consistent marketing strategy, and using data-driven insights to refine your approach. Whether you’re an attorney, consultant, or entrepreneur, this episode provides actionable advice to grow your brand and boost your sales performance. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ --------------------------------------

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love is joined by Henry DeVries, Forbes columnist, co-host of the Marketing with a Book podcast, and co-author of Rainmaker Confidential. Together, they discuss actionable strategies for becoming a better rainmaker, from building strong client relationships to leveraging content creation as a business development tool. Henry shares insights from his extensive research on top-performing professionals and reveals how to invest time, talent, and treasure wisely to grow your practice. Key topics include the "Trojan Horse" strategy for amplifying client relationships, adapting to virtual networking and events, and the importance of storytelling to build trust and credibility. Whether you're a consultant, attorney, or financial advisor, this episode provides practical advice to boost your business development efforts and achieve lasting success. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ --------------------------------------------- Henry DeVries writes a weekly b

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love welcomes Phil M. Jones, internationally recognized sales expert and author of the best-selling book Exactly What to Say. Phil shares transformative insights on the power of words and how professionals can master communication to influence outcomes, build trust, and navigate points of friction in client conversations. With over 800 industries of experience, Phil explains how preparation, curiosity, and empathy are key to closing deals and fostering meaningful business relationships. Key topics include the importance of doing "the work before the work," eliminating indecision in sales, and using debriefing to improve over time. Phil also shares practical examples of crafting the right questions to minimize objections and maximize engagement. Whether you're a professional service provider, leader, or rainmaker, this episode is packed with actionable advice for mastering influence and achieving consistent results. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love welcomes Aaron Baer, a tech-focused M&A lawyer, and Deval Tank, founder of Build Your Book and a thought leader in sales and leadership, to discuss Your Authentic Self: The Last and Only Edge in the Legal Profession. Aaron and Deval explore the importance of authenticity in building meaningful client relationships and thriving in today’s competitive legal landscape. They argue that by sharing your humanity, knowledge, and connections, you can create a personal brand that resonates with clients and sets you apart. Key topics include the risks and rewards of vulnerability, the role of storytelling in client development, and how authenticity can address issues like burnout and disconnection in professional services. With actionable insights from their experiences, Aaron and Deval provide a roadmap for professionals looking to build a book of business by being true to themselves. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ -----------------------------------

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love welcomes Eric Fletcher, a seasoned expert in marketing, business development, and strategic communication, to discuss The Alternative to Mass Marketing Communications. Eric explores how professionals can shift from broad-based, impersonal marketing strategies to targeted, relationship-driven approaches that foster meaningful connections and measurable growth. He provides actionable steps for building a network of allies, identifying ideal clients, and creating relationship maps to deepen trust and engagement with key decision-makers. Key topics include the difference between marketing and business development, the importance of intentional relationship-building, and how professionals can align their strategies with their values and mission. Whether you’re a lawyer, consultant, or any service provider, this episode offers practical insights to create a customized, high-impact business development plan. --------------------------------- As a former Chie

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love welcomes Mark Roberts, a senior-level sales and marketing leader with over 35 years of experience, to share tactical tips for professional services rainmaking. Mark dives into proven strategies to build a successful book of business, from identifying ideal clients to creating data-driven business development plans. He emphasizes the importance of mindset, worthy intent, and consistent processes in driving sustainable growth. Key topics include understanding client buying motives, leveraging data for strategic decisions, and using multi-channel approaches for impactful business development. Mark also shares insights from his experience helping firms achieve exponential growth, offering actionable advice for professionals in the legal and service industries looking to improve their rainmaking efforts. ------------------------------------------ Mark Roberts is a senior-level sales and marketing leader with over 35 years of experience driving profitable s

In this insightful episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love welcomes Joel Block, futurist, venture capitalist, and hedge fund manager, to delve into the art of selling intangibles. Joel shares invaluable lessons from his career, including raising capital, navigating complex business deals, and helping professionals articulate and sell their expertise. With a focus on clarity, simplicity, and the power of asking quality questions, Joel outlines strategies for building trust and confidence in intangible sales. Key topics include the importance of crafting crystal-clear messages, predicting client questions to establish credibility, and leveraging technology, such as intent data and conversational intelligence, to connect with prospects. Whether you're an attorney, CPA, or professional selling intangible services, this episode provides actionable steps to enhance your sales process and position yourself as an authority in your field ---------------------------------------- Bio: Joel Block is a futurist

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love sits down with Julie Fleming, author of The Reluctant Rainmaker and a leading expert in legal business development, to explore how professionals can create storm-proof strategies for success. Julie shares actionable insights on adapting to external disruptions, whether it’s an economic downturn or personal challenges, and emphasizes the importance of building strong client relationships to sustain growth during uncertain times. With a focus on pivoting effectively and maintaining a clear strategy, this conversation is packed with practical advice for attorneys and professionals across industries. Key topics include understanding the three responses to crises—panic, pretend, or pivot—and how to choose the right path, the critical role of relationships in business development, and strategies for tailoring your approach to match client needs. Whether you’re an attorney aiming to grow your practice or a business professional seeking resilience in turbulen

As the founder of the Shari Levitin Group, Shari has helped create over 1 billion dollars in increased revenue for companies in over 40 countries teaching her authentic, heartfelt approach. Shari is the bestselling author of Heart and Sell: 10 Universal Truths Every Salesperson Needs to Know, a contributor to Forbes, CEO Magazine, and Huffington Post.   Additionally, Shari has been recognized as follows: ●     Top 100 Global Inspirational Leader for 2021 by PeopleHum ●     Top 50 Keynote Speakers for 2020 by Top Sales World ●     Top Ten Voices in Sales for 2018 for LinkedIn ●     20 sales experts who starred in the Salesforce documentary film "The Story of Sales.” ●     Top 35 Most Influential Women in Sales globally (Sales Hacker) ●     2020 Gold Medal Winner for Top Post by Top Sales World ●     Top 30 authors and books to read by Vengreso, the largest digital transformation company in the U.S ●     Guest lecturer at Harvard University where her book was chosen as the textbook for selling for the Strategic

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Philip Morgan, positioning consultant and author of The Positioning Manual for Indie Consultants, about how professionals can use specialization to create a more desirable and profitable market position. Philip explains that specialization is a powerful advantage for those who may not naturally see themselves as salespeople, helping them attract better opportunities by focusing their expertise on a clearly defined niche. He shares practical steps for choosing a specialization, including assessing personal risk tolerance, inventorying past experience, and exploring industries or markets where one already has a head start. Philip emphasizes that effective specialization often feels slightly uncomfortable but ultimately leads to deeper client trust, greater visibility, and sustainable growth. He discusses how to test a new focus area with small, lean experiments before heavily investing, and highlights that specialization should be treated a

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Sachin Bakhai, CEO of Law KPIs, about how professionals can manage their firms like true businesses by making better decisions through data. Sachin shares how many firms struggle with fragmented information across systems like case management, CRM, and accounting, leading to reactive rather than proactive decision-making. He explains how consolidating internal data into actionable KPIs allows firms to track client growth, profitability, associate performance, and marketing ROI—ultimately helping leaders make smarter, faster decisions. Sachin emphasizes that using data is not just for executives; line-level managers can leverage insights to drive efficiency, profitability, and strategic growth within their teams. He also discusses trends like the shift toward flat-fee billing and how historical data can help firms price services more accurately. This episode provides a practical roadmap for firms that want to shift from gut-based decision-

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Cole Silver, Chief Client Officer at Blank Rome, about the evolving landscape of leadership, business development, and recruiting in the legal profession. Drawing from his experience as a business development expert and in-house counsel, Cole explores how technology, remote work, and shifting client expectations are reshaping how law firms compete for both talent and clients. The conversation dives into how video platforms have shortened the hiring process, how firms are leveraging remote work for competitive advantage, and why trust, communication, and resilience are critical in the new business environment. Scott and Cole also discuss the ongoing war for associate talent, the growing importance of leadership development in law firms, and the limitations of the traditional billable-hour model. Scott shares his perspective on what truly drives retention and growth—emphasizing firm culture, visionary leadership, and rainmaker training as th

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love welcomes back Ed Wallace—business relationship expert and author of Business Relationships That Last—to discuss how professionals can better “speak the language of their clients.” Ed shares practical tools to improve client conversations, beginning with his “Relational GPS” framework: understanding a client’s Goals, Passions, and Struggles. He explains how too few professionals truly learn what matters to their clients, and shows how using discovery questions like “What was your biggest accomplishment over the last year?” can reveal deeper insights that lead to stronger relationships. Ed also breaks down how to translate a firm’s value proposition into client-centric language that reflects the client’s specific business needs. Rather than leading with services, professionals should listen first, ask follow-up questions, and only then present a custom “value statement” that aligns with the client’s goals. This episode offers a clear, actionable process

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Alexandra Ontra, co-founder of Shufflrr, about how professionals can improve sales outcomes through better storytelling in presentations. Drawing from her background in advertising and interactive media, Alexandra explains that most sales decks strip away emotion by default—relying on bullet points and data instead of meaningful narratives. She argues that storytelling in business is about restoring the human element, helping prospects see themselves in the story, and creating emotional resonance around a product or service. Alexandra introduces a simple framework: the product is the hero, the client is the co-star, and the story arc follows how the product helps solve the client’s problem and improve their outcome. She shares how Shufflrr’s interactive slide library helps sales teams create customized, on-the-fly presentations that follow the conversation—not just a static slide deck. This episode is packed with tactical storytelling advi

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Charlie Cina, sales trainer, speaker, and author of Expose and Close, about how professionals can master the art of the introduction to present themselves with purpose and impact from the first point of contact. Charlie shares how his early entrepreneurial experiences—like buying and growing a paper route at age 10—taught him that “the more you introduce, the more you produce.” He explains that rainmaking success starts with confidently and clearly answering the question, “What do you do?” in 10 seconds or less, with a message focused on solving the prospect’s problem. Charlie offers a framework for creating a powerful personal presentation, sorting prospects from suspects, and building relationships through authentic engagement. He emphasizes that anyone—introvert or extrovert—can connect if they have a script rooted in truth, clarity, and client value. With tips on networking, following up, and staying top of mind using tools like OneTap

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with David Avrin—global keynote speaker, marketing expert, and author of The Customer Experience Advantage—about how professionals can future-proof their business in an unpredictable world. David explains that customer expectations have changed dramatically in recent years, with speed, access, and ease now considered standard. As clients increasingly compare service experiences across industries, firms that fail to adapt risk becoming irrelevant—even if their core service is strong. David emphasizes the importance of eliminating friction, understanding the evolving challenges facing your ideal clients, and creating structured opportunities for conversation—both with clients and within your firm. He also shares tips on improving virtual presence, building human connection through digital platforms, and using internal “morning huddles” to spark innovation. This episode is a practical and timely guide for professionals looking to stay relevant, re

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Mark Roberts, sales performance expert and founder of the “No Smoke and Mirrors” consultancy, about how to get new rainmakers to produce results quickly and consistently. Drawing on over 35 years of experience, Mark explains that success in business development hinges less on personality and more on skills, motivation, and mindset. He introduces his use of assessment tools that measure competencies like the “will to sell” and identifies limiting beliefs—such as a need to be liked or discomfort discussing money—that often hold professionals back. Mark discusses how law firms and other professional services organizations can avoid costly hiring mistakes by using data-driven assessments and behavioral interview questions to evaluate candidates before making offers. He emphasizes that rainmaking is a teachable skill, and offers insights into onboarding, coaching, and client feedback processes that support growth. From mindset reframing to valu

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Margie Agin, award-winning B2B marketing strategist and founder of Centerboard Marketing, about how professionals can stand out in crowded markets by clearly communicating what makes them different. Drawing from her background in language, market research, and content strategy, Margie explains how companies can develop effective differentiation by listening closely to customer language, identifying real decision drivers, and crafting messaging that resonates with both emotional and business needs. Margie outlines how authentic, customer-informed differentiation—backed by proof points and aligned with buyer goals—can help professionals avoid competing on price and instead command attention based on value. She introduces the concept of a “message map” to organize and prioritize core brand messages, and shares how even service firms can package offerings like products to make them more tangible and easier to sell. With examples from her consu