The Bossbabe Podcast

This is the conversation about the part most founders don't say out loud: the moment you hit the revenue number and feel nothing. Natalie sits down with Jenna Wright — a Pilates studio owner who built a 7-figure business from $1,000 and an air mattress. From the outside, she'd made it. From the inside, she was running at 9% profit, paying herself $80K a year, and calling it — in her own words — a pretty prison. So she did what most founders won't: she dismantled it on purpose. They go inside the math (she was running $1.2M at 9% profit, paying herself $80K/year), the team mutiny that finally broke the model, and the deliberate revenue cut from $1.2M to $650K that tripled her margin to 30%. If you've ever hit the revenue numbers and felt nothing, this episode is the operating system for what comes next. Time Stamps: 07:40 "Tired at a soul level" — the burnout most founders hide 10:00 $1,000 and an air mattress: the rebuild from zero 14:05 $250K to $875K in one year (and the cost it hid) 19:10 The misery

In this episode, Natalie sits down with Keren Eldad — coach to some of the world's highest achievers and author of Gilded and the new Gilt Free — to unpack why external success never delivers the safety it promises. Keren shares the three core wounds beneath achievement addiction, the "gilded cage" so many high-achieving women are trapped in, and the surprising income threshold where what you want out of life finally starts to change. You'll learn how to recognize the wound driving your hustle, why "assume everyone likes you" became her most viral piece of advice, and the riptide rule for holding onto success without letting it consume you. If you've ever achieved everything you set out to and quietly wondered why it's still not enough, this episode is the reframe and the way out. Time Stamps:  03:50 The gilded cage: when the shiny life is the trap 07:50 "Yes, we're addicts" — achievement as addiction 15:30 The 3 core wounds behind every overachiever 18:18 The success coach who still spirals when busin

Most course creators add more channels to scale. Anna Konchar did the opposite and now runs a 7-figure business on 2 days a week. Natalie sits down with Anna Konchar — the funnel strategist behind a 7-figure evergreen course business that runs on 2 days a week while she's home with her three kids. Anna shares the exact mechanics of the evergreen funnel + paid ads engine she's used for eight years, why she cut her podcast and YouTube last year to focus on ONE offer, and how she rebuilt after her payment processor shut down her account overnight. Expect specific numbers, uncomfortable honesty about AI in funnels, and a framework you can test against your own course business this quarter. If you've ever wondered how a course creator can scale to seven figures without launching live, this episode is the operating system. Time Stamps: 03:11 From laid-off to full-time entrepreneur in 30 minutes 07:33 The funnel that sells while she sleeps 16:55 When the offer stops converting, fix THIS first 21:30 The pricin

Ever wondered why every time you reach a new revenue level, the same exhaustion shows up — just dressed differently? In this conversation, Natalie sits down with Julie Santiago — founder of We Are The Women, former Wall Street operator, and one of the rare guests who can break down what high-functioning burnout actually looks like at the 7- and 8-figure mark. Julie walks through the three burnouts that shaped her career: the Wall Street year that put tumors on her ovary at 28, the coaching practice she rebuilt in a San Francisco apartment, and the post-motherhood collapse that brought her to her knees again. The takeaway isn't grit. It isn't quitting. It's something Julie calls evolution and it's the framework most high-achieving women never get taught. This isn't about hustle, balance, or finding your why. It's a brutally honest breakdown of what high-functioning burnout actually looks like at the 7- and 8-figure mark, why the same pattern that builds your success eventually breaks you, and how to evolve p

Organic content builds your brand. But ads? Ads build your bank. In this episode, Natalie sits down with Brooke Shelton — a former Meta insider who helped train the platform's ad AI and advised advertisers spending hundreds of millions of dollars on Meta. Brooke delivers a full tactical masterclass on running Meta ads with AI: the strategy most founders get wrong, how to build AI agents that create and manage your campaigns, and why the next 9 to 12 months are a rare window to master this before Meta automates it all away. You'll learn the one-campaign, one-ad-set rule that stops you competing against yourself in the ad auction, why creative (not audience targeting) is your only real advantage in 2026, and how Brooke runs her entire business on AI with zero team after 6X-ing her revenue. She also breaks down the difference between an assistant, an agent, and agentic AI, then gives a step-by-step walkthrough for building your very first AI agent today. If you've ever felt like ads are too technical, too exp

In this conversation, Natalie sits down with David Bach — the #1 New York Times best-selling author behind The Automatic Millionaire, with 10 books and over 7 million copies sold across 33 years in finance. David walks through the ONE money habit that the majority of America's 24 million millionaires share, why "some day never comes" for most entrepreneurs planning to sell their business, how buying the building your business rents turns operators into accidental millionaires, the 10-day stock-market stat that can cut your long-term returns in half, and the mortgage rule banks don't want you to know.  If you're an entrepreneur wondering what the smart financial move actually is in this economy, this is the playbook built for you. TIMESTAMPS 02:30 How financial groundwork buys you the freedom to choose 14:51 Where to start when your business is actually cash flowing 18:30 The #1 money habit: pay yourself first (before anything else) 19:55 The accidental-millionaire move hiding in your rent check 23:10 T

What does it actually take to build a 3M+ personal brand while running a $250M company? In this episode, Natalie sits down with Leila Hormozi - COO of Acquisition.com - to break down the playbook for personal brand: how Leila built one of the top personal brands without making it her full-time job, why deprioritizing content was the move that finally made her brand compound, and the practical content systems (including how she really uses AI) that let her ship without burning out. Expect specific numbers, a counter-discourse case for personal brand in the AI era, and a content "double dip" framework you can install this week. If you've ever wondered whether building a personal brand is even worth it in 2026, or you're a founder trying to figure out how to ship content without it taking over your life, this episode is the operating system. Time Stamps: 00:00 - The personal brand strategy that grew 3M+ followers  01:43 - Why content compounded after she stopped trying so hard 06:24 - The mentor's "ham and

Most coaches scaling past $300K hit a ceiling and assume they need a higher-ticket offer. Maria Wendt did the opposite and built an 8-figure business selling $24 products. In this conversation, Natalie sits down with Maria Wendt — the founder behind an 8-figure business built on low-ticket products. Maria breaks down how she scaled to near-$1M/months working ~10 hours a week, the front-page checkout architecture that turns $1 orders into $100+ carts at a 60% take rate, why she walked away from the $1M/year coaching model after her daughter was born, and how she scaled to 100K YouTube subscribers in seven months with a webcam and no editor. If you've ever wondered whether low-ticket can actually scale past seven figures — without a higher-ticket offer, a bigger team, or longer hours — this episode is the full operating system. Time Stamps: 01:15  -The low-ticket 8-figure model 07:35 - Maria's first two years: $63 → $350 13:18 - The single-mom pivot to low-ticket 16:24 - Pricing, AOV, and lifetime value

Seven months off the podcast. Three of them completely offline. $2.2M in revenue while she wasn't there. Natalie is back and this is the most honest breakdown she's given of what the gap actually taught her. In this episode, she breaks down exactly what happened, why this maternity leave performed when her last one didn't, and the foundational sales engine, team culture, and AI systems that ran the business in her absence. You'll learn what she's pruning from the business going forward, the new direction she's taking the show, and the one question every founder should sit with this week. If you've ever worried that your business runs on you, that if you stepped away, it would all stop, this episode is the operating system you need to start unwinding from being the bottleneck. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - The package that made me ugly cry 02:30 - $2.2M offline in three months — no calls, no coaching, no emails 04:20 - Romy's birth + the no-childcare decision 06:10 - The real reason I didn't bring back the podca

Natalie gets candid about pressing pause on the podcast while on maternity leave. In this intimate solo, she shares the fears behind taking a break, the systems and team that make it possible, and the mindset shifts that let momentum keep compounding even when you step back. If you’ve ever worried a break would tank your growth, this episode will help you trust your audience, your systems, and yourself. TIMESTAMPS 00:07 - Why this episode is different and the truth about taking a break 00:36 - The pressure to “keep appearances” vs choosing authenticity 01:22 - Integrity over optics and why pretending to be “always on” isn’t it 01:50 - Naming the fear that downloads and momentum might drop 02:34 - What’s in place before stepping away 05:09 - Automated revenue streams and cash stewardship that stabilize breaks 06:59 - Surprise upside doing even better YOY without pushing for growth 08:21 - Boundaries with partners and comms so nothing falls through the cracks 09:50 - If stepping away feels impossi

If you’ve been “doing all the things” but still riding the revenue rollercoaster, this one’s for you. In this behind-the-scenes training from Day 1 of Freedom High Summer School, Natalie breaks down why hard work isn’t converting to revenue, and exactly how to swap random acts of marketing for a system that compounds.  You’ll take the Revenue Predictability Test, spot the three traps killing your growth, and map your full customer journey so every post, email, and podcast appearance has a measurable path to sales. Expect tough love, real examples, and a live, pen-and-paper audit you can implement today. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Why I turned Freedom High Day 1 into a podcast and what you’ll walk away with 01:26 - The promise of systems and why implementation beats more information 03:43 - Why your hard work isn’t converting and the “expensive hobby” wake-up call 06:37 - The Revenue Predictability Test that exposes fragile growth 08:59 - The three traps stalling sales and momentum (and how to get out) 11:

For so many high-achieving women, intimacy becomes the one area of life that feels stuck, overwhelming, or even like another thing on the to-do list. In this episode, we’re diving into why with licensed sex therapist Vanessa Marin (featured in The New York Times, Oprah, and more) and her husband and co-host Xander Marin. Together, they break down the hidden pressures, perfectionism, and cultural myths that block successful women from experiencing the intimacy they actually want. From navigating the mental load and shifting gender roles to rebuilding desire after dry spells or postpartum, this conversation is equal parts practical and refreshing. Vanessa and Xander share simple tools you can start using right away, like transition rituals, the “Get Intimate” method, and reframing foreplay - so intimacy feels less like work and more like connection. Whether you’re in a season of burnout, carrying the breadwinner role, or just craving more closeness, this episode will help you feel seen and give you realistic

Ever feel like life just feels… flat - even when, on paper, nothing is wrong? In the finale of our 5-part High-Functioning Burnout Exposed series with Awaken the Muse, Natalie, Alexi Panos and Emily Gallagher dig into numbness, stuckness, and the urge to burn it all down. You’ll discover why flatness is actually a signal of misalignment, how to tune into your inner GPS, and the small shifts that bring you back online without overhauling your entire life. You’ll learn a simple self-audit to spot what needs to shift, how to create breathing room when your to-do list never ends, and what it really looks like to design your days with more aliveness, joy, and ease. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 When numbness and avoidance take over 01:55 Stuckness as a signal: what your inner GPS is telling you 03:20 Numb isn’t nothing: why flatness is still information 05:27 Do you really need to blow up your life? 06:52 The self-audit: what to add in, what to let go of 08:34 Designing instead of reacting: subtle shifts that crea

Why does resentment creep into the relationships of ambitious women - especially when you feel like you’re “doing it all”? In Part 4 of our 5-Part High-Functioning Burnout Exposed series with Awaken the Muse, Natalie, Alexi Panos and Emily Gallagher unpack how unspoken needs, over-functioning, and self-betrayal quietly erode intimacy + how to rebuild connection without abandoning your drive. You’ll learn a clearer frame for reverse polarity (respect vs. cherish), how to shift from blame to vulnerable truth, and a simple reset that restores your sense of power and wholeness in a relationship. You’ll leave with tools to read your nervous system, name the desire under the complaint, and create more safety, softness, and spark - without carrying all the emotional load. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Why resentment builds for high-performing women 03:20 Modern roles & reverse polarity: respect vs. being cherished 06:52 The resentment–self-betrayal loop (micro “yeses” when you mean no) 08:58 Softness, vulnerability, a

Why does “one more launch… one more zero… one more goal” never feel like enough? In Part 3 of our 5-part High-Functioning Burnout Exposed series with Awaken the Muse, we’re exploring the perpetual chase - that constant striving for more, even when you’ve already achieved so much. This episode unpacks why accomplishment rarely brings the fulfillment we expect, how cultural conditioning keeps women tying their worth to output, and what it really takes to feel satisfied now instead of always chasing the next milestone. Walk away with a sturdier definition of “enough,” a simple way to expand your capacity without overloading your plate, and a journal prompt that helps you create from abundance, not scarcity. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 The treadmill of “more”: why achievement never feels like enough 02:33 The warning signs of draining energy and constant mental load 07:10 Craving more things vs. craving more of yourself 08:42 Why rest, play, and pleasure are actually productive 10:31 Breaking the self-sacrificin

Why do so many high-achieving women do all the right things - get 8 hours of sleep, take the supplements, follow the routines - yet still wake up exhausted? In the first episode of this series, we unpacked the overwhelm loop. In Part 2 of our 5-part High-Functioning Burnout Exposed series with Awaken the Muse, Natalie, Alexi Panos and Emily Gallagher dive into energy, vitality and why sleep isn’t solving what’s actually nervous-system and emotional-load related. You’ll hear why healthy habits alone can’t create true vitality, how to reconnect with the signals your body is sending, and the exact reflection that reveals where your energy is leaking: What are you avoiding or pretending not to know? After listening to this episode, you will walk away with simple regulation tools, a new way to understand your body’s needs, and a gentler path to real, sustainable energy. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Doing all the things… and still running on empty 01:18 Vitality vs. cortisol: a new definition of energy 04:33 Burnout as

Why is it that the very habits that drive ambitious women to succeed - the hustle, the long hours, the “I can do it all” mindset - are often the same ones that lead to burnout, anxiety, and resentment? In the first episode of our 5-part series with Awaken the Muse - Natalie, Alexi Panos and Emily Gallagher pull back the curtain on what they call the overwhelm loop - the cycle of urgency, overcommitment, and dysregulation that so many high-achieving women mistake for normal. Together, they share raw stories of postpartum identity shifts, hidden resentment in relationships, and the nervous system patterns that keep us chasing more even when we already feel depleted. You’ll learn what “functional freeze” actually looks like, why capacity can be a mask for self-abandonment, and the micro-practices that help you exhale, reset, and build a more sustainable kind of success. If you’ve ever felt like slowing down means falling behind, this episode will prove the opposite - that nervous system regulation is the real

Why is it that so many ambitious, successful women find themselves feeling disconnected from their feminine energy, and even struggling in their relationships because of it?In this powerful episode, Mama Gena (author of Pussy: A Reclamation and founder of The School of Womanly Arts) joins Natalie to unpack the conditioning that teaches women to “man up” in order to succeed + shares how that very conditioning often leaves us burnt out, resentful, and craving deeper intimacy. You’ll learn why polarity matters in relationships, how to reconnect with your sensuality and pleasure without losing your ambition, and the simple daily practices that can reignite your feminine fire. If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing it all but still missing something, this conversation will show you a whole new way forward. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Why high-achieving women often lose touch with their feminine fire02:22 - How childhood conditioning and cultural myths shape our relationships06:32 - The real reason polarity breaks down in

If you’ve ever wondered how to turn your passion into profit - whether that’s writing a book, building a coaching business, or creating a funnel that actually works - this episode is for you. Ashley went from three years of rejection as an aspiring author to becoming an international bestseller and scaling a $2.5M business. Inside, she shares the exact system she used to finally get published, the framework she now teaches her clients, and the sales engine (built through Freedom Fast Track) that continues to bring in consistent revenue. You’ll walk away with practical insights on building a business that feels aligned, marketing without overwhelm, and structuring your weeks for both creative flow and growth. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - The surprising reason most authors face rejection (and how to avoid it) 02:28 - The step-by-step system to finally get your book finished 06:32 - A wake-up call that changed how Ashley approached business and life 11:53 - What to do if you’re multi-passionate but struggling

Feeling overwhelmed by everything on your plate? From client work to admin to endless content creation, it can feel like there’s never enough time in the day. The logical next step seems to be hiring help, but without a strategy, you can end up with more chaos, more payroll, and not necessarily more freedom. In this episode, Natalie breaks down how to hire like a founder - strategically, intentionally, and for ROI. You’ll learn how to identify the real bottleneck in your business (whether it’s admin, delivery, or sales), when to choose a person versus an AI tool, and how to design roles around outcomes instead of to-do lists. If you’ve been stuck in panic hiring or paralyzed by the fear of building a big team, this conversation will show you how one smart hire (or system) can unlock the next level of growth without adding unnecessary overhead. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Why you don’t need a big team to scale, you just need the right hire 01:13 - The danger of panic hiring and how it keeps you stuck 02:36 - Th